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Fortis Priest Specs
Fortis Priest Specs
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Fortis Priests please post your current spec here along with any commentary on why you chose what you did. There should be only one post per druid with their spec and no posts debating anything. Create new threads for extended discussions or debates of various choices.

These threads were originally utilized to keep track of what roles we were each playing, and make an excellent reference for what does and doesn't work for each individual.
I probably should be hesitant to post this as I am not sure if this will change after we get into the 25mans or not. But here are my thoughts on shadow spec for level 80

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=050320303000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000320023051223010325152301351&glyph=111918010306

notable talents:

Shadow:

Veiled shadows (2/2) reduces fade cooldown of fade by 6 sec and shadowfiend by 2min
--this just seemed too go one because fade is now useful and two because a 3min shadowfiend helps makeup for lost mana from 1 mana pot per fight.

Dispersion (1/1) You disperse into pure Shadow energy, reducing all damage taken by 90%. You are unable to attack or cast spells, but you regenerate 6% mana every 1 sec for 6 sec. Dispersion can be cast while stunned, feared or silenced.
--this is highly debated but i refuse to not take it. This is an evocate+iceblock for shadowpriests while not completely preventing damage and while not restoring quite 60% of your mana its just and amazingly good spell for survival and mana management. The only downside is the no casting spells for 6secs but if you do this when you are running around or between a bosses phases its has no consequence. Even if you are standing there nuking like a brutallus type fight you still have your dots ticking and essentially you miss 2 mindflays if you time it right which while is a dps hit over a 3min cd has little impact.

Discipline:

Improved Inner Fire (3/3) Increases the effect of your Inner Fire spell by 45%, and increases the total number of charges by 12.
--flat 55 spell power increase and almost double the charges of the normal innerfire? yes please

Improved Fortitude (2/2) you know what it does
--this is a raid talent you need an extra 2 points so you can get meditation what better place than here.

Improved Power Word: Shield (3/3) 15% increase to PW:S
--this is really the floater points.. we only get 3 I really dont know that this is where i am putting them its just a guess at this point as i really like how they scaled PW:S up really high(almost twice what it was at 70) and i could see this being a useful oh crap button for us if dispersion is down.


**other possible floater point positions**

these are other places that i really think would work well maybe even better than what i have picked.

(2/2) improved VE and (1/1) inner focus
-- VE got nerfed hard.. i dont think its as good as it used to be but 5% is still something... and in a fight where perhaps melee is taking frequent small amounts of dmg this could be useful however situational now. Inner focus has always been nice but really more utility i generally saved it if i had to rebuff someone after they got a battle rez or I would use it to shift back into shadowform for free if i needed to pop out.

(2/2) improved psychic scream and (1/1) silence
--not sure if this will ever become useful in pve but it will make pvp more fun and i suppose its viable/helpful in the 5mans maybe even the 10mans.

(3/3) shadow affinity (threat reduction)
--24% threat reduction on top of our 30% built in to shadowform seems overkill for me right now... though this is the most likely thing to change due to raiding. aka if threat becomes a problem pick this up....



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http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=050320303000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000320023051223010325152301351&glyph=111918010306

Similar to Shisai's spec but instead of Improved Power Word: Shield I picked up Inner Focus and Physic Horror

Inner Focus while not needed is nice for an extra mind blast in a fight or perhaps switching back to shadow form after casting Hymn of Hope

Physic Horror was just picked up as a floater, give me some PVP capabilities and might be useful in some heroics and such as a last ditch option
and as i said before i would likely change my mind on the 3 floater points.. decided to go with 1 pt inner (cuz i forgot how much i love free shadow form) focus 1 point imp vamp embrace cuz 4 % is better than 3% and 1point shadow affinity for threat... still not sure what we are going to do but i have read that aoe wise we push our old threat boundries now... so we shall see tonight...

also prayer of hope is awful my passive regen does more than it now over the course of 8 sec.... it now replaces fade as the most useless spell in the priest spell book...


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where are the holy specs????


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http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbzhZcxtccMqVuVIRt

I picked up meditation and inner focus of course. I changed up my holy tree a bit from what I used to roll with in BC. I dropped healing focus, spell warding, and holy reach. Instead i picked up Inspiration, holy spec, and lightwell

Healing focus just isn't necessary, not to mention there are way better talents to spend your points on. I liked spell warding back in bt and sunwell days. Reduced the amount of healing I had to do on myself but as with healing focus there are a lot better talents out there. At the moment holy reach is also not needed. there is only 1-2 encounters in Lich King that you need to spread out. so picking up a talent for increased range is kind of useless. perhaps later on in the expansion it will become more usefull but at the moment it's points spent better elsewhere.

In BC I chose to not pick up Inspiration because every other priest had it. Now that we only have 1-2 priests in a raids its infinitely more valuable.Lightwell is simply amazing now with the amount of silence's and interrupts in Lich King, not only in 5 mans and raids. It's a great mana saver and allows dps to help heal themselves on encounters that we are strapped for mana.
i completely agree with all your talents on the holy side...

but i spec identically in disc when holy or shadow spec'd. Is threat really a problem for healers atm? Considering it should probably be at its worst now in regards to threat generation vs gear it could be. If it is and i should probably swap out of the imp inner fire points to threat when i spec holy...



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its a horse a piece really. I don't think i would have any problems specing out of silent resolve, but its only an extra 75ish spell power. I currently sit at 2000 completely unbuffed, 2120 with inner fire. Id rather be safe and not have to worry about threat than to have a little bit more spell power.
interesting note:

Shadow no longer has floater points... should be cookie cutter for everyone.
as of current 3.1 build:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=050320300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000325023051223010323152301351&glyph=000000000000&version=9614

PVP spec little less cookie cutter but personally i would go
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=503302010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005023251223112023152321351&glyph=000000000000&version=9614


on another note disappointed that they didn't give anything to spriests offensively really to counter the loss of blackout.

Holy side i am not sure how the replacement/change of holy concentration will go. Looking forward to holy priest opinions on the matter. New holy concentration seems like imp spirit tap. Looking at the tree though it seems a bit more cookie cutter something like this:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=050320300000000000000000000003505103030215053105331351000000000000000000000000000&glyph=000000000000&version=9614

with the floater points being maybe 2 points in healing prayers that could be swapped into holy reach or surge of light though surge of light still seems more of a pvp talent to me.

new disc build pve wise will likely look something like this

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=050320313050051030132323125103505103000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000&glyph=000000000000&version=9614

again not really any floater points... the pve bonuses of focused power/will are really good but i dont think i would sacrafice anything else for them. Maybe DP/IF/Insp? but i still think those are better talents as a whole. Also disappointed not to see the pw:barrier they had described earlier though perhaps it was a bit too complex for the job iono.



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